Garage Gym Chatter: Defective Eleiko Plates, a Titanic Mistake, Ironmaster Micro Plates, New From Rogue

By |2019-11-13T13:43:49-07:00November 1st, 2019|Categories: Equipment Guides|Tags: , , , , , |6 Comments

Oops, Titan Does it Again

You know, at least they keep trying. Eventually they get it right. I’ve got to give them an A for effort.

This is a video of their Hefty Bench.

Titan got back to him and is sending him a replacement leg that should fit right. But another person in this reddit thread said they ran into the same problem. If you have a problem like this, don’t just let it go. Tell them, and most likely they’ll look into it and fix it.

Ironmaster Made Micro Plates

I usually tell people to use PlateMates on their Ironmaster dumbbells to get the 1.25lb increments:

Ironmaster dumbbells with platemates for micro loading

This works okay. Each magnet is 1.25lb so you have to use only 1 per dumbbell, making them a little unbalanced towards one end.

Good news! Ironmaster made some micro plates

Micro plates from Ironmaster for microloading

They’re 1.25lb each, so it’s the same basic idea as the Platemates, but cheaper, and the plates slide into the dumbbell instead of sticking out like the PlateMates. This minimizes the unbalanced effect of using 1 plate.

The Horrible Condition of New Eleiko Bumper Plates

I got a great email from someone who recently bought a set of new Eleiko training bumpers and an Eleiko bar to rant about how they were littered with defects and damage. Nothing to do with me, except he was wanting to buy some dumbbells from me and warned me that I better not send him junk like this (Thanks for the warning! See ya!).

Eleiko bar shaft that looks nearly perfect
Look closely…
Eleiko training disc with near mirror finish
And the bumper plate

If you look closely you can see a little ding in one ridge of the bar’s knurling, and some light scuffing to the mirror finish of the bumper plate hub.

Folks, this stuff is meant to be banged around mercilessly. Rust is bad. Paint rubbing off is bad. But the pics above are about as close to works of art as you’re going to see in gym equipment. Stock photos that make equipment look flawless are about as real as supermodels in skin care advertisements.

If you don’t like what you’re looking at, you’re gonna hate what some of us do with chalk, or the unsightly marring that a bead of sweat makes on that mirror finish of the bumper as it rolls down.

Anyway, to end the story, he contacted Eleiko, who told him nothing was wrong with his stuff (and that he’s insane).

OCD diagnoses aside, let’s move to the Boneyard, the place where normal people shop…

Boneyard OSO Collars

Rogue has these at 30% off while they last. People love the OSO collars. 4.8 star reviews on Rogue’s site.

The Boneyard is Rogue’s pile of used or slightly defective products. When I say defective, this usually means slight scratches, coloring errors, things like that. They’re perfectly functional but can’t be sold as “new” or they would get complaints.

Boneyard OSO collars at 30% off

2×3 or 3×3 Rack?

Good discussion on bodybuilding.com about how the size of the uprights affects stability and bar re-racking. I’ll just link to it. I hadn’t planned on going over so many topics this month!

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=177665241

And as far as 3×3 racks go, Rogue has been busy…

Version 3.0 of the Rogue RML-490C Released

This has been one of Rogue’s most popular racks of all time.

Upgraded Rogue RML-490C 3.0 Power Rack.

The two main improvements that stand out to me in the upgraded design are the addition of numbered holes on the uprights and an option for safety straps so that you don’t have to get the rack with safety bars and buy the safety straps separately.

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David founded Adamant Barbell in 2007 and Two Rep Cave in 2018. Lately he spends his free time practicing archery and hang gliding.

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As someone who owns three Eleiko Competition Bars, I can tell you unequivocally, that the finish is superior, at least visually, on my older bars. The oldest is from 1991 and still has a beautifully polished glass-like mirror finish, no damage or rust whatsoever. The latest is a 2018 NxG IWF Competition Bar. The finish is not as refined and noticeably rougher; you can feel micro-scratches if you run you fingernail over the unknurled parts of the shaft. That being said, the NxG bar with the race bearing system has unreal smooth and controlled rotation, with incredibly tight tolerances, as well as improved knurling.

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The knurling on the NxG bars are more aggressive, but also more precise/refined than the previous bars. The IWF Comp is the most aggressive for an Olympic bar at 1.2mm depth. The IWF Trainer is also at 1.2mm. However, only two(2) Comp bars are knurled with new bits, followed by three IWF Trainers. Then, after five bars, the bits are discarded (dull). Hence, the Trainers are somewhat less aggressive, but still more aggressive than most others, except perhaps Uesaka.

Note that the knurl isn’t “cut” into the shaft, which would weaken the bar. Rather, the bits push into the softer steel shaft, forming grooves without removing metal. The NxG Performance WL Bar is labeled “firm” by Eleiko, and formed to 1.0mm. All the above bars use the same steel shaft and sealed race bearing system.

The IPF Comp Power bar uses bushings and has a knurl depth of 1.5mm.

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Historically, the knurling has been inconsistent by my observation. For example, my dad bought an Eleiko Competition Bar 30 years ago. He and his training partner used it a few times, then he returned it to the shipping tube and there it remained until I pulled it out in 2016. The bar is immaculate, but the knurling is so mild that the chrome literally filled the shallow grooves! Bare hands will just slip across the bar it’s so smooth, but when chalked they miraculously stick like sandpaper.

I called Eleiko to question them about the knurling over the years, and a woman told me that it wears over time. Now, I’m certainly well aware of that, but as I said, this particular bar was virtually new. This person just didn’t have a clue about the changes over time The bar was probably older than her!

Other Eleiko’s I’ve owned have varied, but been generally aggressive. Thankfully, since they went to CNC machining with the NxG, the knurling is infinitely more consistent.

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Historically, the knurling has been inconsistent by my observation. For example, my dad bought an Eleiko Competition Bar 30 years ago. He and his training partner used it a few…

The knurling on the NxG bars are more aggressive, but also more precise/refined than the previous bars. The IWF Comp is the most aggressive for an Olympic bar at 1.2mm…

As someone who owns three Eleiko Competition Bars, I can tell you unequivocally, that the finish is superior, at least visually, on my older bars. The oldest is from 1991…

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